>An ex speech writer for the Bush administration Marc Thiessen (Wiki) wrote an article for Foreign Policy (article) based from his new book.
The premise is that President Obama is killing to many terrorists.
President Obama has escalated his use of drones to attack terrorists in the war on terror. Recent news reports confirm success with these drone attacks, killing many VIP terrorists. Mr. Thiessen’s complaint, or accusation, is that we should be capturing these terrorists, not killing them.
Mr. Thiessen states that the President is negligently killing these terrorists, and missing out on the information we could get by water boarding (interrogating) the terrorists, thus getting needed enemy information.
Mr. Thiessen offers anecdotal evidence and his opinion, that this is hurting (killing not capturing terrorists) the war on terror.
Mr. Thiessen ask us to take a great leap of faith and endanger the lives of American soldiers, by asking the President to stop killing our enemy. Especially given, that his evidence is so slim.
Mr. Thiessen assumes that every terrorist has information worth risking the death American soldiers. For troops to go deep into enemy territory to capture these terrorists, certainly puts our soldiers at a mortal risk. There is no guarantee, that any terrorist will have important enough information, to take that high risk. Nor is there any guarantee, that a terrorist will talk, even if captured and tortured.
We had hundreds of enemy detainees at GITMO, but decided only 3 had information worth water boarding them for. That’s not a very high percentage, to risk sending our troops to capture terrorists, instead of sending a drone to just kill terrorists.
The object of war, is to kill the enemy. If we can get information by capturing the enemy instead of killing them, it might be a risk worth taking depending on how certain we are of the information that terrorist might have. The risk (in this type of war) for our troops to capture the enemy instead of just killing them, is high.
Mr. Thiessen forms his argument by attacking the President of the United States. A debate of military tactics can be made without attacking the President. I take offense at Mr. Thiessen’s attack on the President, just to make his point about the strategy of using drones.
Seems he is just trying to sell books by attacking the President, not to mention that attacking a person to prove that a military tactic is faulty, is not a serious intellectual debate. Mr. Thiessen’s motivations are obviously political, not based in true concern for what’s best for the war effort.
Mr. Thiessen gives us no numbers, only a few anecdotal stories, that we have missed out on a lot of important information by killing terrorists instead of capturing them. Mr. Thiessen seems eager to send soldiers into unnecessary harm, to gain an unknown amount of possibly important information.
President Obama is having good success prosecuting the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is killing the enemy. I do not want President Obama to stop killing the enemy, especially based on Mr. Thiessen’s flimsy evidence, which appears to be based more on Mr. Thiessen’s political ideology, than good facts that would improve the war effort.
Mr. Thiessen should get better military facts, and not use attacks on the President, if he wants to convince me, or the American people. Leave the political ideology out of it Mr. Thiessen, prove to America how not killing the enemy, is good for the war effort.
Here are the full addresses of the links above, if they do not work.
For Mr. Thiessen’s article in Foreign Policy:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/02/08/dead_terrorists_tell_no_tales
For a Wikipedia biography of Mr. Thiessen:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Thiessen
>Fight For Your Government
March 8, 2010 by TOM
>Over the weekend Iraqis voted for a new government. It’s not the kind of government we would accept, but it is a new start for them. When voting in Iraq, a voter gets their finger dipped in ink. It does not come off for days. That’s important, because voting in Iraq can be a death sentence. In fact, the last count I heard, 35 Iraqis were murdered just because they wanted to vote. Yet, even hearing about these murders, Iraqis went to vote in record numbers. The ink marks them for death by the terrorists. That does show courage and the passion the Iraqi people have, to see that they have a new government.
America can barely get half their eligible voters to vote. I wonder what would happen, if Americans had to risk death to vote? We take our freedoms for granted, and I believe the lack of citizenship, is part of the cause of the mess we are in and the inability of our legislators to legislate. The only poll worth a shit, is an election. We seem to accept polls as a fact of what the American people want, but polls are wrong on a regular basis. Low voter turnout, is a danger to a free society. We could take lessons from most of the World on being good citizens and voting, since America has one of the lowest vote turnout percentages in the World.
If people around the World come out and freely elect their government, who are we to disagree with their choices? If Palestinians freely elect Hamas as their leadership, should we overthrow their government? If Russians freely elect Putin, or other leaders wanting to return to an oppressive, Socialist system, should we overthrow them? The operative word here, is “freely.” Stalin won all his elections by over 90%, but those were not elections of free choice. Our past is full of overthrowing elected leaders around the World, because we disagreed with their ideology. That is how we created the mess and bad feelings towards America, in Iran.
If people around the World want to elect madmen, or have a government policy that calls for the elimination of another country, that is a situation we have to defend against. Attacking and invading Iraq was a war of choice and opportunity, not necessity. It was also a war we knew we could win. Can we say the same, if we decide to attack and invaded Iran? When it comes to war, having right on your side, is not a good enough reason to attack a country. The History of our military (with its civilian commander and chief) has been able to avoid the most common way a government is overthrown, by their own military.
America had a voter turnout of 80-95% for almost 180 years. It’s only since the middle 20th century, that voter turnout has been 45-55%, and a couple of times nearing 60%. If voter turnout was 80-90% we would have a lot less arguments about what our government does. High turnout elections do tend to clarify the direction of legislative actions. It will not end debate, or even uncivil discourse, but it will give elected officials the certainty of who they have to answer to when they vote on new laws. Elections are term limits and the more people who turn out to vote, the more often and faster change in government will occur. Low voter turnout defines rule by minority. Something we claim we are not. The victors do get to write the rules. If the victors are not writing the rules, you can be sure the politicians are not listening to the voters.
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